Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Amway - IBOs, Time To Man Up?

In recent blogging, I have seen many IBOs on this blog and on other forums continue to attack others with the same old vile tapespeak about non-ibos lacking guts, being afraid, and unable to create more income for their families. I find this humorous because IBOs come and go and not even one out of the tens of thousands of site visitors here has perservered and came back to show a tiny shred of success. I had some very colorful visitors in the past such as "going crown" and "going diamond" and a few others. Not a single one of them remains and not a single one of them ever demonstrated that they were capable of building an Amway business. Amway's biggest internet defender appears to fall into the same category with the exception being that he still runs his blogs.

Recently, a site visitor here named Gina posted a profit and loss statement from her business which showed realistic expenditures and and business income. IBOs came to hem and haw and criticize the statement, but not a single one of them had any evidence to show progress in their Amway businesses. In a recent blog post I wrote, the Amway IBOs, for whatever reason, appear to have a need to display wealth that they apparently do not have. According to Stanley and Danko who authored "The Millionaire Next Door", it seem that those who display wealth are the ones who don't have it. I would strongly suspect that many diamonds, and possibly even some much bigger pins live in debt or have little equity and financial stability. I base that on the fact that the lifestyles portrayed by some diamonds, especially the ones shown at certain functions, such as Winter Conference, formerly known as "Dream Night", cannot be sustained, even with over a half million dollars in income a year. Multi million dollars mansions and fancy cars and aircraft comes at a hefty price. I do not believe these lifetyles can be attained by many, possibly most of the diamonds who portray it, at least not on Amway and BSM income.

So IBOs, is anyone ready to "man up" and actually show evidence of how an average Joe IBO can actually profit? One Amway defender always talks about IBOs not being paid to recruit. I agree that there is no direct payment for recruiting, but apparently there is something to it, otherwise why do IBOs spend so much time and money in recruiting? Think about it, an IBO who sells a few items and earns a few reail dollars is better off than someone who has 3 active downline (each doing 100 PV) who actively buys standing order and attend all functions. IBOs are welcome to prove me wrong.

10 comments:

Amthrax said...

I miss seeing Going Diamond and Going Crown here on your old site. Where do you think they are?

Joecool said...

"Going Broke"?

Anonymous said...

I wonder how IBO's are given the opportunity to get involved with the selling of the tools? Do you have to have a certain number of downline before you get to take advantage of this other side business?

Anonymous said...

Maybe GD and GC opened a toilet cleaning company!

Seems like that was their expertise....

Joecool said...

Anon, 1 out of about 240 IBOs reach platinum. PLatinum is about the level where supposedly you get a share of the tools. But as far as I have heard, the platinums only get a share of the standing orders and not the functions and other materials.

2nd anon, it would be funny but I would like to know if GC and GD are still in Amway.

Anonymous said...

I am not an IBO and I've tried to piece together certain things, but what exactly is standing order? Is Amway involved in planning the functions or is it platinum and above who put them together? I wonder how long it takes a typical platinum to reach platinum? Is this information available anywhere from a credible source?

Joecool said...

Anonymous,

Standing order is a tape or cd weekly subscription. Every other week you get one tape and I believe on the other weeks, you get a twp tape/cd set. So basically you are paying for 6 cds/tapes per month.

How long does it take to go platinum? I cannot say for sure, but it seems as though the people who eventually went onto diamond normally did so in 6-24 months. Of course there are some who did it faster and some who took longer. But one has to remember that reaching platinum and maintaining the level are two very seperate issues.

Gina said...

LOL....I was just thinking the other day about where Going Diamond and Going Crown are!!!!

We should take bets...

Anonymous said...

hey you stupid bitch, what is tape speak and how is that different then textbook brainwahing and media hook? you really got to be the dumbest person along with your fucked up friends/followers/or whatever. someone should slap you with a tape you dumb fuck

Anonymous said...

looks like you already got yours dished out to you. care for another slugging??? :)